One of my favourite men-in-pain is Wolverine. ‘Does it hurt?’ ‘Every time.’ Plus, you know, he was a test subject for a mad scientist, locked up, tied down, all manner of horrible things done to his body. He’s practically a mansub poster boy. Then there’s the whole unrequited love thing.
So, I went to edit together that clip, and then realised there’s a whole other thing in there that I love. Cage fighting.
There’s something really great about a man fighting for money. It’s degrading, but it’s a particularly masculine form of degradation. I guess it’s the macho equivalent of prostitution – when all else fails, when you’re desperate enough, when you’ve got nothing else to sell, you sell your body for other people’s pleasure and profit. I don’t know why so much of stereotypical femdom/mansubbery involves trying to degrade a man with forced fem or housework. Apart from the fact that, like Beej, I find it utterly insulting, and profoundly unsexy, there’s also just no need. There’s a perfectly good form of masculine degradation, degradation which is macho and tough and therefore actually hot for women, right here. Cage fighting, pit fighting, even forced thuggery – they all reek of shame and desperation and powerlessness, and other people’s use of your body. He’s down about as far as he can go. And he’s still fighting. Yum.
(Course, male prostitution appeals, too, in the right light. There’s a great piece of OC slash where Ryan’s a ‘hustler’. And yes, I know, it’s profoundly embarrassing that I’ve watched the OC, but I’ll explain why as soon as I can find the time to upload the relevant clip. Anyway, slash, Ryan, hooker, part 1 here and part 2 here.)
Then, maybe they can find a way to claw they way out of that world and struggle to make a better life for themselves, but there are some people who just won’t let them forget it, and keep trying to drag them back down… Mm. I love flawed heroes, repentant sinners, men struggling to escape the shame of their past. Jase Dyer in Eastenders, trying to put his violent past behind him, but hounded by the firm he ran with as a desperate teen. Ryan in the OC, trying to better himself, but constantly being dragged down by those around him. Michael Garibaldi in B5, a decent and competent man, but a recovering alcoholic, and people just won’t let him forget it. Russell Crowe’s ex-gunslinger priest in the Quick and the Dead, forced to face his past by his angry former compadres. Guilt, shame, remorse, and a dark side barely held in check; a heady cocktail.
[...] pretty young boys who play on their prettiness. How, you may wonder, does this sit with my dislike of the whole forced fem thing? An interesting question. I’ve spent a fair bit of time trying to work out exactly why I like [...]
Why I have always kinked on Wolverine, in a nutshell.
Thanks for putting this together. Strangely enough, some minds do think alike. It’s so encouraging.
*wanders off to fantasize about muscular men with metal bones in cages*
Mm, cages.
He’d a be a dangerous little bunny to dominate, no?
*wanders off into happy fantasy land*
But that is the appeal, no? Dominating him might be the most satisfying feeling in the world, but you could always die from it. But it would okay, because until he kills you, you have Wolverine kneeling in bloody puddles regenerating lung tissue at your feet.
Oh, oh! And the part in the first movie where he shanks himself in the chest to cut through the metal so he can free the others but he has to psych himself up by screaming? *choir*
[...] Fighters On Their Knees Only Because They Have Holes In Their Lungs and How Fucking Hot That Is Reading a post by Jones, I discovered someone quite fun. Someone who also appreciates the fundamental hotness of muscled men fighting in cages. Someone who understand that Wolverine is a mansub dream. [...]
> Ranat
Absolutely. The very edge of danger, barely maintaining a hold over him and knowing he might kill you any minute.
And watching him regenerate. How much fun would that be? You could do *anything* to him. Anything.
Hm, I’m going to look for that clip right now.
Oh my God, we must find one. I guess we’ll have to start looking in the frozen wastes of Canada.
Do you think it hurts when he regenerates, too? Bones knitting, skin regrowing…
Totally! We should write a book about it. Or a comic…
Ot just some really good pr0n.
Can it be both?
Sure!
I don’t know if you’ve run across maymay’s blog, but he started a hypertextual porn project (styled like wikipedia, but rather than information about porn, it’s the porn itself). So if you’re feeling particularly motivated, go play in the sandbox.
I have my first humiliating experiment in prose porn for the public arena up there.
[...] 18, 2008 by Nameless As Ranat mentioned a particularly nice Wolverine moment, I thought I’d go and dig it out. And then I noticed the [...]
Intriguing. I’ll have to check that out.
Which bit is yours?
This. Gawd I’ve written porn and put it on the internet, what will become of me…
[...] in an orphanage, and joined the army (his body being his only means of making a living, and we know how I feel about that) hoping to die there. He was made an officer after his reckless, self-destructive courage saved [...]